Koffee,

I think it should have included Hitler.

Were the meetings about the virtues of Osama?

I'm just saying what you or I think is not the issue. What is, for me anyway, is why the objections? Or we can just plod along unaware of the impact.

Dorothee shared this.

The Good News Tour had originally been approved by and scheduled at Warner Pacific College – a Christian college in Portland, Oregon. However, after reviewing our “Servant to the world” painting for advertisement approval, the college leadership decided to cancel our event just two months prior to the scheduled date and just three days prior to the deadline for advertisement submission.

It just says it was rejected, but no reason why. Is that all that's known? Should we try and find out, or just look into our navels and go on with our presumptions.

Did Jesus hang out with political figures?

Do you think they should do it the exact same way next time, or would you suggest something different? That is, contact a Christian college and malls and so forth.

Marco, >>Jesus IS objectionable to many. They killed Him because He was objectionable. Not sure why you'd think our posters depicting acts of Jesus to be any less objectionable?>> Were you expecting the poster to be objectionable to the college leadership of Warner Pacific College? What I think about the poster does not matter. I've known about it for a long long time and never commented on it. The only reason I bring it up now is because is was found to be objectionable by some. Did they give a reason why? A very simple question to answer.

Marco,

I believe you have asked Tweek and maybe others who said they did not believe in God, to describe what there view of God was, and that you most likely did not believe in that God either. Good point and reasoning.

So what is so sacred about this poster? You have your idea of what it conveys to you, but for whatever reason, it may not convey the same thing to others. And if you knew what it did convey to others that was different than what it conveyed to you, why would you also not reject that view of what the poster depicted to them, and in this case the poster itself, if it happened to convey a message that was not accurate.

Dan,

I see you just want some very straight answers. No problem.

You asked if the people where we were going to have the original venue ever commented on why they canceled.

No.

We have no idea what the people at the mall said when they complained. How could we know? So the answer is no.

As for the picture not being interpreted by some the way we intended - I highly doubt it. In fact, the whole reason why some people most likely complained was because they knew exactly what the picture was portraying.

If you have further questions I'll do my best to answer them.

Love,

- Marco

Thanks Marco; that needed saying,as I was going to ask about what they said also.

The message of Lars painting was "politically incorrect" for that college board: they knew what it convicted them of, perhaps. The sad thing is that it was probably the same reasons (but that's a guess) voiced by secular management of the mall...a sad testimony against the Christian College Board.

Dan Hitler is dead: these are all living leaders. The theme was for today's movers and shakers. Perhaps Lars can write of his artist vision in this painting for us.

Marco, Thanks for the answers. >>We have no idea what the people at the mall said when they complained. How could we know?>> The people who knew of the complaints would know, since they informed you that there were complaints. They could have passed that information along to you. That information is still sitting there in someone's brain or even on paper somewhere. I know this was not an experiment to find out what the reaction to the poster was, but it unwittingly turned out to be such. And so I can understand why no one thought to get details as you were more focused on finding a venue that would except your message. But as it turned out, we have a lab experiment without data collected and all we have is our hypothesis, with no verification. I am really curious about why people objected. It's a little bit like having a lab experiment with 3 colors of mice, and knowing all the brown mice got cancer and concluding that being a brown mouse (Christian) is what caused it. Greg Boyd is a Christian, so why did he react differently than the other Christians? Inquiring minds want to know? If nothing else, what their response would be when confronted with the question. Again, thank you for the responses.

>>Dan Hitler is dead: these are all living leaders.>> Good point, Koffee.

Dan, you said:

The people who knew of the complaints would know, since they informed you that there were complaints. They could have passed that information along to you. That information is still sitting there in someone's brain or even on paper somewhere.

Actually, the mall contractors who were in charge of the advertising told us they "received tons of calls and the phone was ringing off the hook" but never told us WHAT was being stated. We asked. They would not give us details. Furthermore, there was a clause in the contract that basically stated "we have the right to pull whatever ad we want anytime."

We've asked for a refund several times. They won't return our calls.

Our ministry swallowed $4,000.00 - we never got our money back. Those ads were supposed to run for a month. We paid $4,000.00 for 24 hours with no refund and no call back explaining why.

Fortunately, God ended up using it to our advantage but it still is a sad thing because just in that 24 hours we got more calls for people that wanted to come to the conference after seeing the picture then we got from a whole month of advertising in The Gleaner.

- Marco

Hey!

I just wanted to tell everyone how WONDERFUL the Good News Tour was and what a blessing I got out of it!! I don't know what others feel about the banner, but I think it is a perfect portrayal of Jesus' love for everyone (even people I don't like).

Wonderful job team!!

Blessings!
Margaret

Thanks Margaret!!!!

Love,
- marco